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  Making 607 crumble

  by ellderwho in

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  during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

  but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

  im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

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  City Fan

  Just as Scholar finally admits that there is no secular evidence for 607, along comes JCanon...
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  Making 607 crumble

  by ellderwho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

  but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

  im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

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  City Fan

  elderwho,

  he threw me a curveball that I wasnt expecting it was the " 20th year of Artaxerxes" and the "70 weeks" of Daniel.

  It sounds like he was trying to get the discussion away from 607.

  Here's a link to Jonsson's arguments on Artaxerxes 11th year and the 70 weeks:

  http://user.tninet.se/~oof408u/fkf/english/artaxerxes.htm

  CF.
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  Making 607 crumble

  by ellderwho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

  but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

  im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

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  City Fan

  Deleted - I did try and post something from Word but most of it disappeared.
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  Does the WTBTS Plan For "New System of Things"?

  by Valis in

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  maybe this is goofy, but i was wondering, actually from reading the "did bush plan iraq" thread...besides the personal fantasizing about a paradise on earth, do you think the wtbts has a master plan or maybe in the past has there ever been talk of such a thing?

  sorry, just having a mini moment..*lol*.

  sincerely,.

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  City Fan

  Valis,

  I suddenly had a vision of a huge underground cavern (think of the film Deep Impact) which is filled as far as the eye can see with row upon row of lawn mowers, wheel-barrows and fruit baskets.
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  ARMAGEDON

  by moses in

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  what is everybodys feelings out there about armagedon is it all garbage or is god's judgement day coming one day.i know the witnesses always use this as their pitch to keep you in,but is all that doom that is in revelation for our future or what?

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  City Fan

  Hi Moses,

  IS ALL THAT DOOM THAT IS IN REVELATION FOR OUR FUTURE OR WHAT?

  All the doom in Revelation is similar to all the doom in Daniel and other apocalyptic books such as the War Scroll from the Dead Sea Scrolls.

  They are all histories written after the event so don't worry too much about it coming true.
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  Making 607 crumble

  by ellderwho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

  but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

  im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

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  City Fan

  Scholar,

  Now maybe you'd like to tell us which of these two comments was the correct one:

  The controversy over the precise year namely 586 or 587 is an enduring and has nothinf to do with calendrical problems as you assert.

  Oftentimes scholars are confused over calendrical problems concerning the data and cannot agree with certainty about certain dates namely 586 or 587.

  Thanks.

  CF.
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  Making 607 crumble

  by ellderwho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

  but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

  im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

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  City Fan

  Scholar,

  You first posted:

  There is abundant secular and biblical evidence in support of 607

  You now post:

  Abundant secular evidence does not exist for 607

  The point we've all been trying to make with you over the 4 pages of this thread is how dishonest that first statement of yours was. Thank you for admitting it.

  CF.
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  Making 607 crumble

  by ellderwho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

  but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

  im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

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  City Fan

  Any chance of any of the abundant secular evidence for 607????
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  Making 607 crumble

  by ellderwho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

  but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

  im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

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  City Fan

  Scholar. You said:

  The controversy over the precise year namely 586 or 587 is an enduring and has nothinf to do with calendrical problems as you assert.

  You then said:

  Oftentimes scholars are confused over calendrical problems concerning the data and cannot agree with certainty about certain dates namely 586 or 587.

  Please make up your mind! Calendrical problems or not?

  Once again, after four pages of posts on this thread, can you provide one piece of the abundant secular evidence for 607????

  CF.
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  Making 607 crumble

  by ellderwho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

  but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

  im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

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  City Fan

  ellderwho

  Scholar's posts usually follow this pattern:

  Scholar posts an assertion without any facts to back him up.

  Someone will then ask him to prove his assertion.

  He then wants you to post evidence for your arguments before he will answer your question.

  You post evidence for your arguments which Scholar then refutes without backing up his arguments with evidence.

  You then ask him again to prove his assertion.

  He then refuses because he says he hasn't had a satisfactory answer to his question!

  And this goes on and on and on. I've seen the same thing happen on too many threads. The best way to disprove 607 is to print off any thread where Scholar gets involved.